I’ve gotten two particular comments recently that I felt would best be dealt with in a blog post rather than a standard comment/response. They are different and yet have similarities as well, which is why I’d like to reply to them at the same time. The first comment came as a reaction to my ‘
Response to godisimaginary.com’ blog post and is as follows:
My attitude regarding God, years ago, was nothing less than contempt. Contempt for a God who would not answer prayers, who would allow his children to suffer, who would allow inequalities, in every aspect of life, to remain prevalent among His children, who had not even enough concern or love for humans to even offer them guidance in the world when the prayers for such were accordingly made. I could no longer allow myself to participate in a "one-Sided" relationship with a Creator. Then it hit me: "THERE IS NO GOD!" I do respect a person's right to believe whatever they choose, though. It's helpful for me to remember that "believing" something doesn't make it true; also, "faith" in something does not mean it will come to pass. These two ARE facts that empirical evidence does support. Given my experiences with this world, everything that the "godisimagin . . ." people wrote, every point and every argument they make for the non-existnce of God makes sense. Most of their points I had thought of before I read them on their pages. But let's suppose for a minute that I'm wrong: I die, I then awaken, to my amazement, in front of a God whose going to hold me responsible for my actions and my beliefs. He tells me that I should have believed. I ask,"based on what evidence, the "answered" prayers, the "magic," the "equal" distribution of wealth, talent and fortune that I've seen
distributed to your children, in my life?" He then sentences me to eternal hell.
Wherever or whatever that is.(Make a left at Jupiter, you can't miss it.) My point is, If there is a God who would sentence me to hell for being wrong . . . He wouldn't be a God that I would serve anyway. Thanx . . . had to throw in my two cents.
The second set of comments came in response to a presentation that is part of my “Tough Questions, Real Answers” series that I have posted on slideshare. The presentation in question is was “
Isn’t the God of the Old Testament Ruthless and Cruel?”, and the reply it elicited from someone was simply the following:
The God of today is a hateful bastard. My life is living proof of that. Nuff' said
Let me begin my answer to both sets of comments by saying … I hear ya! Truly, I do. A little over 10 years ago I watched my young wife die of cancer. She was a Christian, and we had lots of people praying for her, but still, she died and left me alone with our little 1+ year old daughter. Six months after that I lost both my parents within one week of each other, and what was particularly hard was that my Dad wasn’t a Christian despite years of me praying for him. I had been a Christian for about 16 years by then, and had reached about the same destination as the comments printed above: if there is a God, He sure isn’t my friend, doesn’t listen to my prayers, and is probably not worth pursuing anymore. In short, I was mad. Very mad. I’m not sure I even uttered a prayer to God in the six months that followed.
But I came out of it due to some diligent searching for answers that I didn’t have at the time. I can’t possibly relay every corner I turned and set of issues I wrestled with (that would take a book), but let me pass along some conclusions I reached that may be of help to you who penned those comments and others of you who nod in agreement – even if it’s in quiet silence to you and you alone – with them.
First, you must separate the intellectual arguments you wrestle with from the emotional feelings you have. The first commenter made a couple of correct statements in his post: (1) believing something doesn’t make it true; (2) having faith in something doesn’t mean what you hope for will come to pass. Belief should always be grounded in reality – what is really true – and faith is only as good as the object in which it is directed. You should have good reasons for believing something is real and putting your trust (which is one meaning for the word ‘faith’) in it. Agree?
If so, then you should revisit my response to godisimaginary and tell me where my argument for God fails from an intellectual and logical standpoint – why God is not the best explanation for answering the key metaphysical question of why we have something rather nothing at all. Forget the unanswered prayers, the presence of evil, the unhappy circumstances in your life for just a moment and think… Is it really more reasonable to conclude that an impersonal, meaningless, purposeless, and amoral universe (one that has been proven to not be eternal by the way…) accidentally created beings who are full of personality, and obsessed with meaning, purpose, and morals? Which is the more sensible choice: a cause that possesses none of the characteristics of its effect or a Cause (God) that embodies them all? Your only two options are matter before mind or Mind before matter – that’s really it. And when push came to shove, even J. S. Mill who was not a Christian commented that it is self-evident that only mind can create mind.
Next, keep in mind that just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean that the particular ‘something’ doesn’t exist. You may have an unpleasant parent whom you don’t like, but such a situation doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Just because God may allow evil to exist and doesn’t appear to answer prayers in the fashion that some people think He should doesn’t equate to there being no God. Make sense?
So now let’s look very briefly at the subject of evil in the world – how can an all-powerful and loving God coexist with the presence of pain and suffering? The Scottish skeptic David Hume framed the apparent dilemma this way: “Is he [God] willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then is he impotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? When then is evil?”
Realize first this is a massive subject of discussion and volumes have been written on the topic. For a semi in-depth discussion that addresses both the intellectual and emotional sides to the problem of evil and God, see my article
here and presentation
here. But let me also add something at this stage that most don’t consider when they ask the question – to even suggest there is evil in the world mandates that God must exist. Once you hold God’s funeral as the atheist (or better, agnostic) does, then you have quite an interesting philosophical mess to deal with. Think not? Listen to Richard Dawkins who deserves an “A” for honesty in making this statement: “Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life...life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA...life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference” (River out of Eden).
Most will recoil at such a thought, but Dawkins has at least followed his philosophy through to its logical end. You see, as C. S. Lewis wrote, you can’t recognize a crooked line unless you know what a straight line looks like. Or, to put it more complexly: If there’s such a thing as evil, you assume there’s such a thing as good. If you assume there’s such a thing as good, you assume there’s such a thing as an absolute and unchanging moral law on the basis of which to differentiate between good and evil. If you assume there’s such a thing as an absolute moral law, you must posit an absolute moral law giver, but that would be God – the one whom the atheist is trying to disprove. So now rewind: if there’s not a moral law giver, there’s no moral law. If there’s no moral law, there’s no good. If there’s no good, there’s no evil. So what again is your question?
Moreover, you may wonder why God doesn’t rid the world of evil, but suppose – just suppose – in His campaign to carry out what you desire, He starts with you. You see, people get worked up over the evil they see in the world (and deservedly so in many cases) but they rarely consider the evil that resides in their own heart. It’s there. You know it is if you let yourself be honest with your internal ‘you’. How do you propose to get rid of that evil?
One last note on evil before we move on to the issue of prayer – the Bible is full of stories that have evil in them. One of the reasons I trust and believe in the Bible is that it is not some fairy tale of predictable happily ever after endings. If that were the case, we should toss the Scriptures into the nearest trash can because it would not match what we see from a reality standpoint all around us. Read the Bible and you’ll find all the key personalities suffered greatly, experience pain and suffering in the world, with some (including the Son of God Himself) dying at the hands of evil men. And don’t miss the fact that these same men communicated directly with God, so they didn’t have the option open to them of denying God’s existence – they knew without question that He was ‘there’ and yet God still allowed them to experience the evil that came their way.
Now, what about prayer? Rest assured I won’t give you a typical sermon on the subject because I’ve experienced firsthand what some have called “the silence from Heaven” in response to very great needs. But I’m not alone in that regard. God’s chosen messenger to deliver the gospel of Christ to the non-Jewish community and the person He used to write much of the New Testament – the Apostle Paul – pleaded with God three times for the removal of pain in his life and yet was denied and told that God’s power is made perfect in weakness (2 Cor. 12:7-9). The person God called a man after His own heart – David – said his bed was literally swimming in water because of the tears he cried over his painful situation that God left him in (Psalm 6:6-7). And finally, we find the only perfect person to have ever lived requesting His Father for the removal of a cup that He would rather not drink, but in the end, Jesus went to the cross.
No, it doesn’t make sense to us sometimes (maybe even many times). But the cross sure didn’t make sense to Jesus’ disciples at the time either, but afterwards, they understood God’s purpose in allowing it to happen and went out and preached Christ with fervor they never knew. And their reward? For 99% of them, a violent death – something we wouldn’t expect to occur (using our human reason) for people being obedient to God. But it did.
I know you have questions. In all honesty, I have questions too, but they’re not what you think. I don’t doubt God’s existence, His goodness, or His omnipotence. I’m fully convinced of those things. I’d like to understand the ‘why’ behind some events more, but like Job, I don’t fully understand what God considers basic things so I’m likely not ready to receive such knowledge just now, but perhaps one day. Like Paul said, "For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known" (1 Corinthians 13:12). Until then I’ll just trust this fact about God: "“For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts" (Isaiah 55:9).